In the last few days we (several EHS people and activists) mange to catch the headlines of Israeli press.
It has started with an article written by Smadar Shir about an EHS person Dafna Tachover, in the #1 news paper in Israel and continued with radio interviews in the #1 radio show in Israel in Gle Zhal (IDF radio) By Journalist Yael Dan.
The first interview was with Dafna and the second interview was with Adi (EHS person), myself (Amir) and Dr Zamir Shalita. Below please fine the transcript of the second interview as was sent to me by a world leader EMR activist.
EHS developments following Dafna Tachover's interview yesterday: more EHS people interviewed today on mainstream radio programme "making noon" with Yael Dan.
Host Yael Dan on the radio:You won't believe how many calls came in following the interview. Many people called to say that they suffer from this syndrom. We take on ourselves to study it, to research it, to bring your stories on this subject.
I think it's appropriate to do this and we will do it in the coming days, weeks and months.
One of the responses the program received yesterday was from Amir Borenstein, and they asked him to be interviewed today.
He was interviewed today with another EHS guy Adi Weissman and with Dr. Zamir Shalita.
Yael Dan: the many people who called - have no life and at the national insurance they did not hear of the disease.
We were flooded by calls, dozens of calls, it turns out that many suffer from the EHS syndrom and a lot more do not even know
they are suffering. A syndrom we did not know, until the conversation [with Dafna Tachover] and people do not know how to deal with it.
Adi Weissman, one of the people who called us yesterday, discovered his speacial sensitivity in last December.
He is a fresh patient. Adi Shalom, you are 30 years old.
Yael: and live in a tent.
Adi: I don't exactly live in a tent, I sleep in a tent.
Yael: you sleep in a tent in the garden, in the yard.
Yael: Wow. Explain, how this all started?
Adi: In December I started working as a sales department manager in a shopping mall, in an electricity appliances shop of big chain. During the first shift I started feeling unwell. At the start I had migranes, cramps in the chest and stomach, nausea, I wanted to throw up, even gastric juices raised to
my throat. I started feeling very unwell. I figured I was maybe excited from the new job, I said it's nonsense I will continue.
During the shift it became worse. In the second shift I said, I'll continue to see how it goes. And also in the second one and the third one, despite getting connected with the workers and that I liked working with the customers, I had pains and physical distress and I realized that something was wrong, I understood the problem is not in me, it's in the place.
I understood there is a problem and I left the job.
In December the sensitivity was only in extreme cases, strong cellular antennas and commercial centers.
I returned home. I got better and I went out again to look for a job. Then I noticed that I don't feel well in every commerical center. I started thinking what it could be, I started to connect it to the radiation, because I saw the antennas.
I saw that I could not find a normal job, or to find a job. I returned to the old work I used to work in, deliveries where you go from place to place, you don't need to carry the presence of antenna. Then I workd in elderly house, and the same story.
Yael: the radiation is everywhere.
Adi: In April they installed in my house wireless alarm.
Yael: Oh mom!
I was a little in pressure, but I thought there is also wireless phone, so it's not something really bad.
But within days I started developing very serious physical distress, and within one-two weeks, I arrived at the doctor
who sent me to emergency room, and they checked me and asked me what's the problem. I said - listen I am sensitive
Yael: you knew to say that you were sensitive to radiation, it was YOUR diagnosis.
Adi: Yes, because at this stage to talk on the cell phone was... it deteriorated, it was not in one boom but relatively slow.
Yael: We are talking about what happened in the last months, it's rather quick deterioation during which you moved to live in
Yael: And also there they put and antenna.
Adi: In April, after the alarm was neutralized, I saw that it did not help. Because it probably opened me even more to the radition.
And I saw that I could not even sleep in the house. I moved to sleep in the wood. I slept there for a period of time, it was not nice, there are wild animals of course, and it's also a little bit freigtening. I don't have work and I sleep in a tent near the house.
Yael: tell, until today you don't have work.
Adi: right, I don't have work and I sleep in a tent in the yard of my house.
Yael: [Do you have] a girlfriend?
I must tell you, it's not very attractive, your life.
Adi: I don't, I had but now to get to know a partner it's rather embarrassing.
Yael: It's a problem, to invite her to live with you, unless she sees it as something romantic.
btw, all the dozens of people who called us, emphasized that they do not speak on the cell phone, we are talking to
you not on the cell phone.
Adi: I can talk with you on the cell phone maybe for a second but it cost me, it cost me in pain.
Amir Borenstein joins the conversation, he suffers already since 1997. You have seniority, what did you learn during this period
Amir: That conventional medicine does not recognize it at all. Here and there, there are scientists and doctors
who know the studies, know the research material, and know EHS, but in Israel if you come to the doctor you don't get any proper treatment. Usually they give only pills and send you to your way.
Yael: They think you are a nut case, that you are histerical.
Amir, Yes when I talked to EHS that's what they told me, and this is also what they told ME, when there was deterioration in my condition and I went to modern medicine and I did EEG and CT and the whole process.
Yael: We hear of people who live in the car, in the wood, where do you live?
Amir: My situation today is relatively well. I am sensitive at medium level, so I can live in a house in a neighbourhood. I took a cell phone from a friend during the army, within 20 seconds I got a headaches and it happened again afterwards.
It got more severe when in 2004 I bought a new house, and there was antenna in front of it, and during the same time I built a laboratory at work, I am a high tech person.
Yael: You are also a high tech person, you found a great syndrom for yourself.
Amir: Yes, I work against what I am doing and where I am.
Yael: Yes it's unimaginable.
Amir: the laboratory was filled with electronic equipment, wireless router above the head, electricity board near the lab and the women workers were speaking on the cell phones all the time.
Yael: What did you feel?
Amir: The first thing is heat in the head, then pain in half of the brain that starts from the back of the head to the
forehead, and then arrive difficulty to breath, faster or slower heart beats, until the level it's impossible to do anything.
I did changes in the house and protections. It's important for me that the EHS with whom I work and those who come to you, understand that first thing is knowledge, it is needed to know what the radiaiton is, [to know] the studies.
Yael: You are known from the internet. EHS people came to you, how many EHS do you know?
Amir: I know dozens in Israel and hundreds in the world. I opened it up in the workplace where I'm in for 4 years,
and the workers came to me, turns out that 10% in my workplace suffer headaches on almost daily basis and they take
pills to relax and pills against pains.
Adi wants to say more things:
I cannot go to hospitals because the radiation there is enormous and I am very sensitive. I'm afraid of the day I will have to be hospitalized, it freightens me to death. In the emergency room I came for a very short treatment, I do not dare to think of the fact that I will need to be hospitalized or receive real medical treatment. In public transportation there is Wi-Fi and GPS, I almost cannot travel in public transportation.
Yael: you cannot go to a restaurant or a public place.
Adi: No, really almost no. This syndrom disconnected me from society. I am trying to find a place to live where I can feel well, a place without electricity, distant from cellular antenna.
Yael: Amir what about national insurance? it's handicap, it's impossible to work.
Amir: Yes but if the EHS is not recognized by the health system in Israel, then of course it's not recognized by the national insurance.
Yael: We approached the national insurance. They did not hear of it. But a doctor is needed. I would like to add to us
Dr. Zamir Shalita, he's speaking from New Jersey, like Dafna Tachover, he was ready to wake up in any hour to talk with us.
Dr. Shalita: I am not an MD, I am a medical microbiologist. I deal with this since the start of the '90 when I retired. I would like to open with something that will surprize you. The developer of Ericsson's cell phones, developed EHS and he lives in the wood.
I know about it for 10 years.
Yael: He did not tell us it can be dangerous
Dr. Shalita: He did not know it himself. He had to move to live in the wood with light of candles.
The EHS people who talked with you, for them it's new, I already know it above 20 years, I know the studies,
I know the connection that they showed, that the radiation opens the barrier between the brain and the blood,
fluids leak from the blood to the brain, and cause headaches, and chemicals leak from the blood to the brain and
they disrupt there. This is one of the phenomenons.
Yael: How should it be treated?
Dr. Shalita: Only to take distance or block. I don't know of drugs against radiation. It is needed to be prevented as much as possible. Amir goes with a hat, in the hat there is cellular radiation block, but it doesn't block radaition from electricity. [ELF]
From many meetings with Amir, he feels even when someone turns on cell phone several meters from his back,
he feels it.
Yael: We will continue and talk about this syndrom, in order to understand it better, and mainly in order to help the lots of people.
Do you have an estimation of how many in the population suffer from it?
Dr. Shalita: I don't know, dozens call me, call me during years.
Adi: The protections for me for example do not help. There are people to whom the protections help, I tried protections,
it does not help.
On the internet website of the programme:
One women wrote this followng Dafna Tachover's interview: I suffer from exactly the same problem. I sleep on the beach for one and a half months. It started two years ago and became severe, lately there are probably changes in the routers area and antennas and my situation is very difficult. I tried everywhere. I suffer. I left work, society, life. I lost human image. I cannot be anywhere. I cannot run normal life. I go around sleepwalking looking for a place where I can feel better. On the beach I feel better, but one cannot live on the beach, this is what I do. In radiation environment (these days it's anywhere) I suffer from terrible headaches (I never suffered from headaches), dizziness, masking of the brain, the head does not work, lack of concentration, confusion, feeling of heaviness in the whole body, awful weakness, trembling in the body and head.
At night, when I try to sleep I feel dizziness, strong currents in the whole body and especially in the stomach, like crampings. Strange dryness in the throat. For two years I search the country from north to south to find an isolated place to live in and I don't find it. A place without cellular antenna or W-Fi. I go home to get updated with emails or run phone conversations to communicate with the world. I do it fast and run away. I have a terrible headache, I hope I did not do mistakes.